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We’re sedimented and nothing is impossible. Cambridge analytica, people who found a void in google and how Russian manipulated americans thanks to cracks in facebook. That guy came out and said I made a mistake. All the kids empowered by the digital media have a responsibility toward it and have to made aware of the power they have. Adef is a transformative experience where I realize the world I live in but it also comes with a responsibility. I’d like to tell them about all that is happening in science, genetics, gaming, arts. What are people working on now: present and explore. And question the implications, what are we shaping, how will it shape us, the good and the bad. They are people who are thinking, not applying code. Have agency over what they’re doing. Example: deep fake technology. It will take us to an awful stage. I can recreate anyone in any way I like and it’s not you. When Russians start to play with it it will be awful. Standford people are saying we are going to get there anyway so let’s see what we can do with this, how do we feel responsible about it, how do we protect ourselves about it. Transhumanism is a big thing now. The human body is being incorporated with technology, it’s ancestor is prosthetic. Some are now used in army but also in health. Hearing impaired using technology to effect the brain. So I’m enhancing but also Haptic learning: new tech developed in goergia university and they have discovered you can wear gloves and you’re going to feel sensations and then come to the piano and play a piece of music without learning. Do I play the piano or am I being manipulated? Suppose I found a way to teach you history of France in mid ages and I just feed your brain and you have it. It has other magnificent applications for people who have partial and complete paralysis and can teach you to move again. Japanese café where paralysed people at home control robots at café.

AI: All the insertion of bots in our lives, tons of questions. Kids should ask these questions. Robots is posing a huge economic problem, unemployment is rising tremendously, millions of people will be born will not have jobs. In 20-30 years many jobs will disappear. Mitubishi has a plant now that can completely build cars without people. The more world is progressing the more humans are being sidelined. All benefits going to people developing this technology. People in France are saying maybe robots now should pay taxes because they are using money. Maybe when 40% of jobs there will be a bankruptcy of the states!

Kids need to be challenged by what they discover, questions that don’t need to have answers but so they are grounded and not consumers. The issue is not having agency in this developing technology. The main issue is to understand the implications of what comes from it. Having a list of questions is one thing, but figuring out how to introduce it, to present it in our program. Who has played in deep fake and is willing to develop ideas for the sake of introducing it for understanding. Adef as spaces of playfulness. To understand: do we present how it’s made? Critical thinking is part of understanding and learning and creating. Discover, understand, think. So shall we explore how these new technologies are done? Are all these above known unknowns? How to facilitate this goes to an unknown unknown. How to get to it, how to engage with it, how to get people or machines to team up on working on this. “If you have an idea don’t google it because you’ll find it. The world is behind itself. The idea of a novel idea is no longer there so maybe we just need to find a new way to question it?


There is a module of where does the world need our contribution?

I’m obsessed with how people can be in action mode. I would say start from where you are and create a community around you and then grow. Do it first within your community. I want people to feel they can do things.

How can we divert from failure. We are lucky to come across individuals but we’re not yet weaving together well. The conversations are missing.

Mo3gam experience where there was no output but how the discussion helped generate questions and new ideas. So it seems like we didn’t do but we did.

Module: thinking and naming the world we live in. creating situations for which we don’t have a name. people in Canada gathering in a room with different experiences and came up with a word ‘fubbing’. The story of how they came around the table to describe it. They crystalized this situation which is universal but has no name for it. The story shows how they built a word and how it spread across the world. It’s a realization of how we behave.

Adef is understanding and contributing to the digital world we live in.


In laussane, ecole polytechnique best in the world, produces engineers that work in high tech. there’s simone henein, swiss Egyptian professor, he created a system of perpertual movement that is more precise than everything around us. All watch producers wanted to buy this technology. He put it open source the next day. Despite that patek Philip sponsored the department. This professor is also a dancer and he said he wanted to create improvisation and engineering. I want engineers to experience this. Now it’s part of the curriculum. And this is a revolution. The physicality is something that people need a lot more there is a real search for physicality and movement and touch. Anything that can be introduced in that form is important.


Maybe you need to take this to a different audience. A corporation. Why? Bec people are hungry to learn. More and more companies are aware of lack of motivation of workers and doing a lot.

Let’s think of industries and corporates who we know have a thirst for this knowledge. Ranwa: we somehow do that by proxy. Amina and redstar as an example. This erosion you feel is coming from external factors to which you need to adapt.

Rethink in how you sequence these workshops. Maybe one workshop needs to be split to three?

The political context has disintegrated and now set to rebuild an Arab network by doing the GO

== ملاحظات == ميسرة: عالم في الآخر تحدث عن جوانب تتعلق ب"تيسيير" GO، وتحدث عن ممارساته بإنشاء ما أسماه "منصات"، ليست رقمية بالضرورة، وعلى شكل دعوات لأفراد ان يشاركو بما يعملون عليه واستخدم كتابه الأخير عن المدن كمثال، بحيث يكون هو القائم على الكتاب وتنسيقه واختياراته الاخراجية، مشيرا لبحثه واختياره المدروس للمشاركين في تلك "المنصات".